Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

Thanks for the informative review! I think you did a great job describing the differences between the different tips. I've been an avid comply user (used S size)  but recently purchased some M spiral dots for new iems. They feel fine though I was wondering how you like them to fit in your ear--a deeper fit or more "average"/external? I'm getting a good seal and sound but am not quite sure how to best seat them in my ear (lucky for me a small eartip accidentally got packaged in with the mediums so I can compare!).

Has anyone done an SPL-matched comparison with the Spiral Dots? Subjectively they do make every IEM I've tried sound much better, but I can't tell if the improvement is simply a slight volume increase. And if it is "just" that, does it matter?
How do the RHA double silicone tips compare to the Spiral dots and will they fit the Empire ears Zeus XR Adel IEM? Do the spiral dots all fit the Zeus?? Please

Are the sizes of these similar to the other ear tips? They are also very inexpensive!
Edited by tunes - 12/17/16 at 8:30pm

Spinfit sizes

L: 13mm

M: 12mm

S: 11mm

XS: 10mm

JVC Spiral Dot sizes

L:14mm

ML:13mm

M:12mm

MS:11mm

S:10mm

Just in case anyone was curious :)

Selling a brand new (worn once) pair of medium spiral dot tips because it's too big for me if anyone's interested. Same size as medium spinfits.

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Selling a brand new (worn once) pair of medium spiral dot tips because it's too big for me if anyone's interested. Same size as medium spinfits.

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It's interesting - I just got my pair of Spiral Dots (M), and if the sizes that willowbrook lists are right, then they should be identical to the Spinfits (M) that I have. They're not - they seem a bit wider and push outward a bit more (and seal a bit better). It could be due to the shallower angle, or something. The sound is also a bit less mushy on the Dots.
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It's interesting - I just got my pair of Spiral Dots (M), and if the sizes that willowbrook lists are right, then they should be identical to the Spinfits (M) that I have. They're not - they seem a bit wider and push outward a bit more (and seal a bit better). It could be due to the shallower angle, or something. The sound is also a bit less mushy on the Dots.

Spiral dot tips are just a tad bit smaller than spinfit tips size. The difference is not like another size difference, but it's there. The numbers above are just measurements provided by the manufacturers of the flange diameter so it's not wrong. The tips are just different. I could fit the medium sized spiral dot tip, but they were hurting and the medium small fits me pretty well. For the spinfit tips, I had a hard time fitting the medium and small is just slightly slightly large. If you can fit the medium spinfit tips, you can definitely fit the medium spiral dot tips without problem. They are different tips after all with different thickness and different bore size, so even if the diameter is exactly the same, it's impossible to get the same fit. Generally, the flange diameter is a good measurement to tell which size you need, but you can't really guarantee the same fit. I wish to tell you how the small spiral dot tips fit in my ear, but I can't find a pair locally to try out, but I'm guessing it will be too small for me. The xsml spinfit tips were definitely too small for me.

The information about size is stated by OP on his original post.


Edited by willowbrook - 1/31/17 at 4:31am
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So now that I've finally got myself some Spiral Dots I have no idea what all the fuss is all about. 30$ for relatively standard silicon tips... Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit hmm.

And what's with the dots... ? They cant possibly contribute acoustically as they are hidden by the IEM's bore (at least in the case of the Angies). At best, they make for a better grip (or perhaps just the opposite, make it easier to remove)... .

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While seal and comfort are key factors, the sonic characteristics of a given tip combined with a specific IEM will also play an important role. Here's my simple comparison. Treble is highly affected by how deep / shallow the bore of the IEM sits underneath the tip. I think material / material's thickness also plays a role.

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

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Originally Posted by Traveller
 

So now that I've finally got myself some Spiral Dots I have no idea what all the fuss is all about. 30$ for relatively standard silicon tips... Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit hmm.

And what's with the dots... ? They cant possibly contribute acoustically as they are hidden by the IEM's bore (at least in the case of the Angies). At best, they make for a better grip (or perhaps just the opposite, make it easier to remove)... .

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While seal and comfort are key factors, the sonic characteristics of a given tip combined with a specific IEM will also play an important role. Here's my simple comparison. Treble is highly affected by how deep / shallow the bore of the IEM sits underneath the tip. I think material / material's thickness also plays a role.

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

In addition to the depth of the bore, the size of the bore probably affects the sound a lot too. With the Andromeda, soundstage depth difference between spiral dot tips and spinfit tips is something that I found interesting. Had the same thing happen with the flc8s, spinfit tips tend to cause congestion.

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While seal and comfort are key factors, the sonic characteristics of a given tip combined with a specific IEM will also play an important role. Here's my simple comparison. Treble is highly affected by how deep / shallow the bore of the IEM sits underneath the tip. I think material / material's thickness also plays a role.
Thank you for posting those pics. Quite useful.

For me, the seal (more accurately, the isolation) plays a major role since even a fantastic sound is destroyed if you can't hear it because of the noises around you.

I've found that the Klipsch X7i's two-flange tip in combo with the size and shape of the X7i gives a great seal / isolation. Now if I can just find a great sound with at least the same level of isolation.......
Oh... Those photos were great, but a side view would be very helpful too. Thanks.
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...a side view would be very helpful too. Thanks.
First photo, top row...

I just got the S,MS,M size spiral dot tips. I can confirm that the sizes feel indeed a tad bit smaller than the respective size for spinfit tips. The reason for that is because spiral dot tips are pretty shallow and is excellent for IEMs like Andromeda. MS on left and M on right for spiral dot tips fit perfectly while S on left and M on right for spinfit tips definitely feel a bit bigger because of deeper insertion. However, the measurement is not wrong and the size is definitely the same. It's the different thickness, bore height and size that makes it have different fit.


Edited by willowbrook - 2/19/17 at 4:05am
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A crop of (my) contenders to confirm your findings...

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit 

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First photo, top row...
Oops! Thanks.

Like usual, forget them in the UK. FFS, can't get them

I just found out that there is a new version of spiral dot tips. The new version looks much lighter in person in terms of color, reflects less light and is more prone to dust sticking on the surface. The old version looks much more black and it looks very oily compared to the new version. It just looks oily not because of actual usage. Cleaned mine with dish washing soap, still looks like that. The ones I ordered from ebay a month ago were the new version though. Fit wise, I strongly prefer the new version as they stay in place better. Sound wise, I haven't noticed any difference.

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit

Comply vs Spiral Dot vs SpinFit


Edited by willowbrook - 3/3/17 at 4:55pm

^ does it say anything on the box that indicates it's the new version?

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^ does it say anything on the box that indicates it's the new version?

Not sure. I got the old version without the box from another person without knowing it. New one ordered from ebay a month ago. I think most are new version now. Haven't seen a person complain about getting the old one from ebay. You can tell though when opened. Old one looks very greasy and black even if it is new and the new one looks like dark grey color. The holes are shallower too on the new one.
Edited by willowbrook - 3/3/17 at 9:01pm
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